Royal Burgh of Haddington and District Community Council

Minutes of meeting of 8th April 2008 in Council Chambers

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1.  Sederunt

Jan Wilson (Chair), John Golightly (Vice Chair), Emily Armatage (Treasurer), Irene Pow (Secretary) Colvin Denholm, Bob Oliver, Kathryn McDowall, Effie Renton, Norman Lawrie, Graeme MacGregor

 

In attendance

Cllr Ludovic Broun-Lindsay, Iain Gray MSP, Neil Aitchison (Courier), Craig Finley (EL News), Anna Faulkner (minute secretary)

 

Retiring members:  Jan started the meeting by saying that four members are standing down from the Community Council:  David Motherwell, Effie Renton, Irene Pow and Norman Lawrie.  David, Irene and Norman have all been on the CC for about 10-12 years and Effie for the last 5 years.  Jan thanked them all for their hard work and dedication and said that they would all be sorely missed.  They are all welcome back any time!  She also said that the two new members are Charles Ingle and Margaret Ingle.

 

2. Apologies: Cllr Sheena Richardson, Janet Brent, Nico de Freitas

 

3. Major Items for AOCB

3.1 Note from Graeme on meeting held on 15th March

 

4. Visit from Iain Gray, MSP

Iain introduced himself and said that he welcomed the chance to come to our meeting – pointing out that although it was not possible to attend every meeting, he was at our disposal should we wish to raise any particular issues with him.  He also said that if the CC would like to a visit to the Parliament he was happy to arrange this.

 

Questions to Iain

 

Traffic situation in Haddington: Effie asked if anything could be done about the traffic situation.  Iain said that the way it is organised is a matter for the local council but that he does spend a lot of time on efforts to improve the service.  Is aware that whilst the service between towns in East Lothian and Edinburgh is good, the local services inter towns is inadequate.  RAGES are still pursuing a longer term solution with a rail service between Edinburgh, Haddington and Dunbar, with a possible stop-off at East Linton.   He has met with the Transport minister who seems quite positive about this.  He will continue to keep pressing on these proposals.

 

Proposed development at Letham:  Jan brought this subject up and asked how many more houses can the town take.  Iain agreed that the number of houses proposed would take the town almost to capacity.  He said that they can’t just say no to more houses as they are needed but what is important is how it is done and managed.  He hoped that, long term, that the development would be sustainable.

 

Improved employment in Haddington:  Graeme asked if anything could be done to help.  Iain said he has had meetings with Economic Development about the possibilities.  One problem was that there wasn’t enough business premises available for rent and the new commercial sites at Macmerry and Gateside are more expensive than sites in West Lothian.  Iain thought that one of the best ways to support employment was via the Tourism Industry – East Lothian is rich in attractions, namely castles, churches, John Muir Country Park, Seabird Centre, golf to name a few and the potential to create  more jobs is there.

 

Funding to improve town entrances:  Colvin asked if there was any help available to improve the town entrances.  Iain wasn’t sure that there was but that the slip roads are maintained already.  He said that there was a proposal before the election to set up a town centre renewal fund.  Towns would be able to access this to help with refurbishment of certain areas. 

 

Land Reform Bill:  Emily asked if the government is going to replace the EU funding which it is proposing to stop.  Iain wasn’t sure but will look into it.

 

Athelstaneford:  Irene said that they have an ongoing problem with raw sewage at Gilmerton House.  It has been brought to the attention of ELC, Scottish Water, SEPA and Environmental Health and still nothing has been done. 

 

Taxation:   Jan suggested that the bigger the car the more tax people should pay, likewise with the size of their house.  Iain said that there is an energy efficiency bill proposed at the moment which would give a discount on council tax dependent on how energy efficient your house was.  At present the government won’t support this bill but they will keep pursuing it.

 

Provision of Nursing Care:  Kathryn asked if any consideration will be given to people with disabilities, people in nursing homes or those being cared for at home.  This provision is the responsibility of the local authority and previously some funding was earmarked for this.  This has been removed, which Iain said they opposed as there is no guarantee that  any money set aside will be spent in this area.

 

Herdmanflat:  Jan said that in 2004/05 Jan and Maggie Burns targeted the NHS to save the hospital.  They were made promises that a new hospital would be provided by 2009.  This has obviously not materialised.  Iain said he had raised the matter with NHS manager David White who also gave assurances that have not materialised.  Iain will continue to pursue this matter.

 

Money for Community Councils:  Jan said that Gordon Brown had promised that there would be more money available to CC’s.  Iain said that this is something that will be raised in the parliament but suspects that the answer will lie with the local authority.

 

Jan thanked Iain for taking the time to attend the meeting and address the matters raised. 

 

5. Minutes of Tuesday 11th March

Approval of the minutes was proposed by John and seconded by Bob.

 

6. Matters Arising

6.1 Item 5.4 Recycling bins: As a note of interest Bob said that he had just had delivered a blue bag for paper recycling.  Ludovic said that the person to contact for information on recycling was Colin Clark.

6.2 Item 5.5 Fly tipping: Bob said that it was still there but that the mono-blocks were gradually disappearing!  Ludovic has taken this up with Stuart Pryde who is trying to find out who is responsible and will have it cleared up. 

6.3 Item 6.2 Amisfield Park (hole in wall): Norman asked where this was exactly.  Colvin said that it was just past the entrance to the houses.  As well as a large hole in the wall it was pointed out that a great majority of the wall is in a bad state of repair. 

6.4 Item 7.1 Haldane Avenue - speeding:  Bob said that a survey has been carried out but about half way along this stretch of road instead of at the beginning – the police report did not find that there was a problem with speeding.  Bob said this wasn’t surprising as most of the cars will be starting to slow down for the roundabout and that the problem is at the beginning.

6.5 Item 10.1 Doocot: Jan has got an ‘A’ board but it is very heavy.  There is still the problem of cars parking in front of the door – John asked if yellow lines could be painted here.

6.6 Item 15.1 O/S matters list: Jan said that she hadn’t spoken to Lilian about this as yet.  Ludovic has warned Lilian that this list will be coming to her. Jan will deal with it.                                                                                                             Action JW 

 

7. Councillors Corner

7.1 Lady Kitty’s:  Emily said she had been asked to bring to the meeting the problem of youths hanging about in the evening.  Jan asked that Emily send her an email about this and she would contact PC Gunn.                 Action EA/JW

7.2 Riverside Drive:  Colvin said that the footpaths are a real mess, particularly between nos 33-40 and 93-107.  This is due to the work being carried out here.                                                                                                                  Action LB-L

7.3 Dobsons Well: Effie asked if the footpath sign could be reinstated.                                                                             Action LB-L

7.4 Naming of roads: The councillors asked if Ludovic could find out the position re naming of new roads in the town.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Action LB-L

7.5 Cross Lane: Effie said that at the bottom of the lane between Market St and High St there is a drain cover missing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Action LB-L 

7.6 Lady Kitty’s:  Effie said that the retaining wall inside the garden has been broken down.                     Action LB-L

7.7 Gates for High Street: Jan received a phone call from a resident in the chip shop close just off High Street with complaints of broken glass, close being used as a toilet and young adults congregating there and making a noise,

Action LB-L

7.8 Burley’s Wa’s:  Effie said that the boarding surrounding this area is off and the site behind is a real eye-sore.  Colvin said that this part of the site was privately owned.  They have already approached the Masonic Lodge re the acquisition of the hall.  Colvin will try and find out more information on this.                                                                                        Action CD

7.9 Carlisle Cafe:  Kathryn pointed out that there are very uneven slabs outside this area.                                  Action LB-L

 

8.  Police Questions – no police were present at the meeting

 

9. Honorariums

9.1 It was agreed to pay the following honorariums:

Community Council Account -               £100 to Jan (Chair)                            

                                                                £200 to Emily (Treasurer)                 

                                                                £200 to Irene (Correspondence Sec.)                      

                                                                £100 to Norman (Planning Officer)                                                                 

Festival Account -                               £200 to Jan

 

As per last year Norman and Irene both thanked the committee but declined to accept their honorariums.   The above figures were proposed by Norman and seconded by Effie.  Emily will transfer money from the Festival account to cover these.                                                                                                                                                                                     Action EA                         

10. Correspondence

Received:

10.1 Notices of ELC meetings

10.2 Poster for Iain Gray/MSP

10.3 Letter from Jean Squires re ‘Sustaining Haddington’, a workshop on 23/4/08 in Town House at 7pm: Jan,  Kathryn and possibly Effie will go

10.4 Letter of thanks from ELC,’Monkrigg Court’ the chosen name (our suggestion!)

10.5 Letter from Forestry Commission re consultation on Forest Enterprise Scotland

10.6 Reply from PPG re Oak Tree Cafe site/Scottish Power to blame!

10.7 Leaflet from Postwatch Scotland

10.8 Copy of Homefront/Newsletter for Tenants of ELC

10.9 Letter from Stan Wnuczek:  Jan has received a letter from this resident who is in total opposition to the closure of the road at

 the Waterside (D Motherwell had brought this up again at the last meeting).  Jan read out the letter which to sum up, asks that we take no further action with this. Jan thought that we had not agreed to take any action on this anyway.

10.10 Brief report from Graeme on meeting held 15th March: Talk Together/Tal to your MSP’s

10.11 Letter from Stan Wnuczek Re gates at Tyneclose – these have now been closed.

10.12 CC Training:  Jan said the Lilian was thinking about holding a training day soon.

10.13 Date Protection Act:  Jan will bring this to the next meeting

10.14 Phonecall from Fraser Spowage: re the gates at the entrance to Neilson Park.  Rusting and some of the letters are missing.  Could something be done about this. He also would like to thank Community Council for raising the matter periodically of the unkempt state of the walkway near the weir at the ‘tubby. This has now been done and he thanks East Lothian Council for doing this.

Sent out:

 

11. Planning

11.1 Norman passed out copies of his report which summarises the position regarding ongoing and new applications.  Jan thanked Norman for his invaluable help to the CC and wished him all the best in his retirement. 

 

12. Treasurer’s Report

12.1 Emily handed out the current balance sheet:-

HADDINGTON & DISTRICT COMMUNITY COUNCIL A/C as at 8th April 2008

Last month’s Balance                  £1,187.09                             

Income                                                                                   Expenditure

Interest                                                  £0.89                       Jan’s Phone exp                                               £28.00

                                                                                                Emily’s phone exp                              £28.00

Anna Secretary’s fee                                £50.00

Total                                                       £1,187.98                                                                          £106.00                                                                                                                                                                                

New balance £1,187.98- £106.00 =                              £1,081.98

Jan has not cashed her cheque so bank statement reads                £1,109.98

 

HADDINGTON COMMUNITY COUNCIL FESTIVAL A/C as at 8th April 2008

Last month’s balance                  £18,394.70

Income                                                                                                   Expenditure

Interest                                                  £23.38                                     Tax                                                          £4.67

                                                                                                                Knox Academy Website                 £170.00

                                                                                                                Colvin Denholm donation                                £200.00  

                                                 Seat for Information office                                £70.00

                                                                                                                Stand for Information office      £94.00

                                                                                                                Float for Information office                £65.00

                                                                                                                Donation to the library                      £200.00

                                                                                                               

Total Income                                         £18,418.08                            Total Expenditure                          £803.67

New balance £18,418.08 - £803.67  =  £17,614.41

The library cheque has not been presented so bank statement reads                    £17,814.41

 

13. Handbook

13.1 Directory:  Jan asked that everyone took a page to check the details.  This is to be deferred to the Festival Meeting.

 

 

14. Festival Minutes

14.1 Jan confirmed that Sunday 25th May is the correct date (and not Sun 26th as stated in the mins)

14.2 Emily will book wreath from Kerr’s                                                                                                     Action EA

 

15.  John Lockhart Trophy

15.1 Emily asking for nominations.   An advert  will go in the Courier this week.  18th May is the closing date with the presentation being held on 25th May.

 

16. AOCB

16.1 Cards:  Jan had some sample cards made from photos taken by Linda Sneddon.  She proposed we sell them in the doocot at £1 each or 4 for £3.50

 

17. Date of next Meeting:  Tuesday 8th May (plus AGM) 2008 in Council Chambers, Town House at 7.00pm.

 

18.  Date of next Festival Meeting: Tuesday 22nd April 2008 in Town House at 7.00pm

 

19. Outstanding Matters Arising from previous minutes  

19.1 Jan still to send a copy of this list to Lilian to enable her to check on which items have been auctioned/which are still outstanding.                                                                                                                                                         Action JW         

 

2006

14/03    

Athelstaneford (Lighting outside hall): a wall light has been installed but this is not what the CC had asked for; Emily to email Tom about this                                                                                                         Action EA

Burley’s Wa’s – 12/06 it was reported that the insurance company has insisted that the area around the George Hotel be boarded up in light of a recent incident relating to a fire extinguisher being let off

12/04     Old Bowling Green – name plaque: Sheena has tried to find out where the original sign is.  Suggested that a new one be made if old one can’t be found (09/07)

09/06     Town House Clock tower lighting – Jan has contacted Halliday’s on numerous occasions and the lighting has still to be sorted.   13/2 Jan has had no reply to her email and Irene had no reply to a letter she sent to them last Autumn.  It was decided that Irene should write again.     08/05 and 12/06 Still no reply                Action IP

11/03/08  Jan said that Alan Forsyth has confirmed that some of the wires have been pecked by the pigeons.  Some sort of covering needs to be sourced to prevent this continuing

12/09     Broken kerb at Co-op

10/10     Uneven slabs at Graeme McGraths

14/11     Mill Wynd/Millfield - fencing

                Mill Wynd/West Mills – pathway

                Dunbar Road – pavement a mess

 

2007

09/01     Long Stay parking-disabled parking bays

13/02                Footbridge at Riverside Drive

                St Ann’s Place – large puddle

                Herdmanflat – broken slabs/tree roots

13/03     Nungate Bridge – light filters

                Abbey Bridge – broken mirror

                Ball  Alley – lights

10/04     Estate Agents signs

                Abbotsview/Riverside Drive – wall/broken slabs

                Newton Port/Market St junction – broken sign in pavement

                Guttering – High Street

                Courier Office – exposed pipe in pavement

                Peter Potters – broken drain

08/05     White brig – slats missing-Tom has passed this on to relevant department (12/06)

                Pathway at sluice

                Herdmanflat

12/06     Public toilets-one-way mirror –  11/12 Tom Trotter has spoken to Tom Shearer about this: let him know if this hasn’t been done

                Rugby Club-upgrading & fencing off pitch

                Nungate Bridge-needing overhaul

                Oak Tree Café-untidy-needing cleared

11/09     General disrepair of the pavements in town      

                Gifford Road – speed bumps

                Oxfam Shop – selling new goods

09/10                Signposts in Newton Port facing the wrong way

                Langriggs (gates to vennels)

                Gateside commerce park – lowered pavement

                Alderston Muir – naming of :  11/12 Jan suggested Bob email Sheena direct regarding this

                Church Street –Parking overlapping pavement

                Alderston Muir – fence blocking access to Alderston Muir

The Sands-Vehicles parking on corner of Church Street and The Sands

Local Plan Inquiry –request for a copy of report.

13/11                Highways: invite Brian Cooper and/or Peter Forsyth to some of our meetings

                Play area (Longcram/Acreadales): 11/12 reported

                Missing drain cover outside Sue Ryder shop: 11/12 reported

                Pencaitland Road – election poster: 11/12 reported

11/12     Court Street – paving stones - reported

                Herdmanflat – paving stones  - reported

2008

12/02                Monkmains – bollards:  11/03 in hand

                Public toilets – condensation: 11/03 under investigation

                Neighbourhood Watch Posters: 11/03 ELC can provide

                Fly tipping problem – Alderston: 11/03 reported

                Riverside Drive Bridge – anti-slip coating

                Hopetoun Drive – speeding

11/03     Old A1: bench

                Amisfield: hole in wall

                Alderston Gardens: signage/trees

                Street lighting: Gifford Gate, Lady Kitty’s, bollards

08/04     Lady Kitty’s – broken wall

                Riverside Drive – messy pavements

                Dobsons Well – signage

                Cross Lane – missing drain cover

                Carlise Cafe – uneven paving slabs