Royal Burgh of Haddington and District Community Council

Minutes of meeting of 13th  March 2007 in Council Chambers

 

1.  Sederunt

Jan Wilson (Chair), John Golightly (Vice Chair), Emily Armatage (Treasurer), Irene Pow (Secretary), Norman Lawrie, Effie Renton, Janet Brent, David Motherwell, Dave Brunton, David McManus, Marianne Andrews, Graeme MacGregor, Colvin Denholm,

 

In attendance

Councillor Ann McCarthy, Councillor Charles Ingle, Councillor Sheena Richardson, Stewart Cooper (Courier),

Craig Finlay East Lothian News, Anna Faulkner (minute secretary)

 

2. Apologies:  Marion Smith, Ruth Moncrieff

 

Jan welcomed Craig Finlay, a new reporter with the East Lothian News.

 

3. Major Items for AOCB

3.1 John Lockhart Trophy

 

4. Minutes of Tuesday 13h February

4.1 Item 5.1 Calders Lawn: Correction was made so minute reads ‘Norman had been in touch’ instead of ‘was in touch’.  Remove ‘thereafter’ and replace with new sentence as follows ‘The problem at Calders Lawn had been rectified and…..’

4.2 Item 5.3 Flood prevention: Norman corrected the minute to read that Irene had received a letter from Mr McCrorie, Head of Finance ELC.  It was also Norman’s recollection that Irene was to write to Mr McCrorie and not to Jacobs as per minute.

4.3 Item 6.8 No apostrophe needed at taxis.  Also, Colvin corrected the minute to read that an email was received from Mr Amos regarding the taxis parking and not Johnny’s Cabs as minuted.

4.4 Item 7.1 The plural of business is businesses.

4.5 Item 7.5 Replace ‘seems to be working’ with ‘seems to be effective’.

4.6 Item 9.4 Should read Draft Core Paths Plan

4.7 Item 9.15 There is no traffic ‘in’ Alexandra Place since it is a house.  There is however traffic ‘at’ Alexandra Place

 

Approval of the minutes was proposed by John and seconded by Colvin.

 

5. Matters Arising

5.1 Jan said that she had received word from Bill Harkness’ wife to thank the CC for the flowers sent to her.  She was most appreciative of our thoughts and kindness.

5.2 Item 5.11 Golf Course wall: Colvin said that although the wall had been repaired, there is still rubble lying around.  Norman pointed out that there are other areas around the perimeter wall that need some attention and perhaps an inspection of the whole wall would be a reasonable request.  Charles said that he would take this up with Alan Forsyth.      Action CI

5.3 Items 5.4 River Tyne clean-up; 6.1 Footbridge at Riverside; 6.3 Artillery Park; 6.7 St Ann’s Place:  Charles has written regarding all of these matters and will report back in due course.                                                           Action CI

5.4 Item 9.4 Draft Core Paths Plan meeting:  Jan cannot go to this open meeting on the 15th of March.  Irene said she would go instead.                                                                                                                                                                                Action IP

5.5 Item 9.6 National Planning Framework seminar:  Norman did take a look at the letter but did not make the seminar.

5.6 Item 13.1 Doocot:  John said that on Sunday the shutter for the window at the doocot was wide open and the repairs to repair the smashed glass had not been done.   Jan said that we are hoping to get the centre open on the 4th April.  Charles said he would chase it up.                                                                                                                                                          Action CI

5.7 Item 16. Outstanding matters: 13.2 Slabs at Herdmanflat: Ann has had a look at this area and thinks that there is a general problem in that area and that a long term programme of repair is needed.  She has raised the issue with 3 different departments within ELC.                                                                                                                                                            Action AMcC

5.8 Item 9.11 Drinking By-laws:  Norman had previously circulated seven copies of this document. After discussion Norman suggested that we accept the 4 point recommendation as follows:-.

1.                    To remove the exemption allowing the consumption of alcohol in designated places during gala days and local festivals.

2.                    To remove the exemptions allowing consumption of alcohol in designated places during the period from 6pm on 31 December to 6am on 1 January

3.                    To amend the designated area in Haddington to include the whole of the town using the town boundary as a marker

4.                    To prohibit and make it an offence for a person to carry an open container of alcohol in a designated public place

Jan said that places such as the Rugby Club could easily apply for a licence and that an area could be demarcated where alcohol could be consumed.  Charles said that it has to be enforced for it to work. 

 

 

6.  Councillors Corner

6.1 New Roodlands Hospital:  John asked when we could expect to get a new hospital. Jan stated she, the late Maggie Burn and Shirley Howard had discussions with the NHS executive personnel in 2005 and were promised that Roodlands would be completed by 2009. Ann said that the initial report stated they were hopeful to have it up and running by 2009 but that this had slipped back somewhat and that work is ongoing on proposals to redevelop the site as it is and are looking at how this can be done within the costings. She also stated that they are looking at the possibility of using some of the existing buildings but that this was a very complicated process.  Alternatives were also being looked at.   Jan pointed out that 1 in 4 people suffer from some form of mental health problems and said there were not enough facilities to cope with this and hoped there would be more bed spaces created to deal with this problem.

6.2 Nungate Bridge: David Motherwell asked that filters be fitted to the lights illuminating the bridge as at present they are too bright and people are blinded as they walk across.                                                                                          Action CI

6.3 Abbey Bridge:  David Motherwell also mentioned that the mirror for traffic at Abbey Bridge has been smashed.  He suggested a polished metal one might last longer.                                                                                                    Action CI

6.4 Ball Alley/Churchyard:  the lights here are on all day                                                                                        Action CI

6.5 West Haugh - plaque: David Motherwell asked once again if this could be corrected or removed.                Action CI

6.6 Toilets at Athelstaneford:  Emily asked about this.  Charles said that the matter is in hand.                      Action CI

6.7 Buses in Market Street: Colvin said that the buses are still stopping and dropping off passengers in Market Street.  It was pointed out that we were not averse to them dropping off passengers but it had been agreed that they were not to park and stand waiting for any length of time as this causes an obstruction.  Jan said that after the article pertaining to this subject had appeared in the paper, a couple of elderly people complained about the suggestion that the buses were not to drop off passengers in Market Street. Some elderly people prefer the bus to stop there so that they have a short distance to walk to places like the doctors’ surgery.  The suggestion of a bus stop outside Kesley’s would cause more congestion and loss of parking spaces and was therefore not deemed a good idea. 

6.8 Swing Park at Whittingham Drive:  Colvin asked Charles if this was to be included in the revamp of the area.  Charles confirmed that it was.

6.9 Dog fouling:  Colvin said that the first 100 yards of the river walk were particularly bad for dirt and are there dog wardens in the town.  There are wardens and there are also designated members of ELC staff who can issues fixed penalty notices if they catch the culprits. 

6.10 Young Scot Card:  Colvin had brought this up at the last meeting that the card apparently allows 16 years olds to purchase alcohol when having a meal.  Ann said she would like to have a look at this.                        Action AMcC

 

7.  Police Questions (2 police officers from North Berwick had been asked to attend the meeting at short notice)

7.1 Boy racers:  Jan had sent an email to Sgt Duffy re the boy racers in Langriggs.  It was reported that one has been given an ASBO and the registration numbers have been taken of the other offenders and they have been warned that if their numbers are noted again that their cars can be confiscated.  Unfortunately they cannot be charged with having noisy exhausts.

7.2 Chip shop close:  Jan had been contacted by a resident to complain about a couple having ‘nookie’ (as Jan put it!) in the close.

7.3 Fog lights:  John asked if it was an offence to drive with fog lights on in clear weather.  It is an offence and those caught can be charged.

7.4 Police Surgery:  It was not clear whether the date had been changed but Ann said that an article in the paper had said that the surgery was going to be held on a Saturday morning.

7.5 Crime trends:  Since the last meeting there have been 16 crimes reported; 10 were minor thefts and the rest vandalism.  No major problems reported in the town.

 

8. Treasurer’s Report

8.1 Emily handed out the current balance sheet:-

 

HADDINGTON & DISTRICT COMMUNITY COUNCIL A/C as at 13th March 2006

Last months balance                  £1,169.32                             

Income                                                                                   Expenditure

Interest Jan                                           £1.12                       Jan’s Phone exp                                              £28.00

Interest Feb                                           £0.87                       Emily’s Phone exp                              £28.00

                                                                                                Secretary’s fee                                    £40.00

                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

Total                                                       £1,171.31                                                                          £96.00                                                                                                                                                                                  

New balance £1,171.31- £96.00 =                                £1,075.31

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HADDINGTON COMMUNITY COUNCIL FESTIVAL A/C as at 13th March 2006

 

Last months balance                  £8,679.87

Income                                                                                                   Expenditure

Interest Jan                                           £13.37                                     Sports Plus Reception                     £89.56

Interest Feb                                           £12.05                                     Tax Jan                                                   £2.67

Jack Tully Jackson                                                          Tax Feb                                                  £2.41

Donation                                               £100.00                                   Float                                                       £100.00

Craft Fair income                                  £435.00                                   Real Rosettes                                                £74.40

Float returned                                       £100.00                                   Food for Art Exhibition                       £46.78                    

Handbook advert                                 £100.00                                   Flowers (Mrs Harkness)                    £22.00

Shine a light income                   £44.00                                     Advert                                                   £29.46

Handbook advert                                 £100.00                                                  

                                                                9,584.29                                                                                                  £367.28

New balance £9,584.29 - £367.28 =                                                        £9,217.01

 

8.2 Un-cashed cheque:  Emily confirmed that the books (up to December 06) are with the Accountant.  The un-cashed cheque (£200) which was paid to the Guides for delivery of the Handbook last year has been queried.  John will ask Lorraine about this.                                                                                                                                             Action JG

8.3 Outstanding cheques:  These are as follows:  Real Rosettes, Tyneside and Leslie & Leslie.  Jan will chase these.    

                                                                                                                                                                                Action JW

9. Correspondence

Received:

9.1 Membership renewal form for Assoc of Scottish Community Councils (£15)

9.2 Signpost to Funding from ELC

9.3 Leaflet from Scottish Parliament ‘Working for you’  

9.4 National Planning Framework Questionnaire. Replies requested/no date given 

9.5 Meeting the needs of Women and Men in East Lothian.  Five questionnaires to be returned by 19th March

9.6 Notice of ELC meetings

9.7 Hopscotch Holiday Charities:  they are asking for help towards the cost of food for the 2 trips planned.  It was proposed and agreed that we donate £70.                                                                                                           Action EA         

9.8  Norman received a letter from a lawyer working on behalf of a local resident who sustained an injury outside Mains Saddlers in February 2006.  The problem with the guttering had been raised at Community Council meetings on a number of occasions – Norman will look at the history of our discussions and write with this information.                                                                                                                                   Action NL         

9.9 Letter from Daly International: this company does planning work on behalf of mobile phone companies.  The present proposal is for a mast to be situated at the east end of Station Road Industrial Estate (comments requested by 16th March).  Norman has been in touch with Hilary Dickson, who has previously objected to such proposals – she will take this up again.  Norman suggested we write to say that we have alerted neighbours and that our concerns are that this same application was rejected last year.  Jan also pointed out that our objections could site the fact that there is already a mast in this area – do we need another?                                                                                                                                Action NL

                                                                                               

Sent out:

9.10 Letter to Peter Collins re paint colours of buildings, also poor state of building above Paul’s Fish Shop (No reply yet)

9.11 Reminder re drop-in event on Draft Core Paths Plan in Town House 5-8pm on 15th March

 

 

10. Planning – Norman passed out copies of his report

10.1 78 High Street:  Ann said that she had gone today to have a look at the plans for these premises (Cobblers).  The plan appears to be to change the colour scheme.  It was suggested we request consultation on this.                       

10.2 Looks Hair Design:  This was discussed briefly and objections were raised with regards to the signage and the colour.  Norman will request consultation on this and bring to the next Festival meeting.  

10.3 Bank of Scotland:  Norman will request consultation on this also.

10.4 George Hotel:  Norman has not emailed Paul Zochowski as yet but will do so and report to the Festival meeting.

Action NL

 

11. Festival Update/Minutes

11.1 Further to Jan’s meeting with Lesley Smith (EL Arts Council) it has been suggested we can run this show one of two ways.  Either they pay for putting on the show and take all of the ticket money, or the CC pay for it and take the money from tickets.  Jan thought the former option was preferable.  Dave Brunton suggested that they take the door money up to the cost of putting on the show and the rest be put towards the Christmas light.  A puppet theatre and juggler etc will also be provided for the Fun Day.

11.2 40-Year Celebration: Jan said that she would like to run the Festival for two weeks since it was a special celebration.  John thought that we should find out about the Tranent and Musselburgh Festivals as they may coincide with  Haddington if it were to run for 2 weeks.  Jan will look into this.

11.3 Leaflet:  Jan said that this has gone to the publishers and she will need help in proof reading it when it comes back.

11.4 Website:  Jan was pleased to say that she is managing to update this regularly and any articles would be very welcome.

 

12.  Tourism

12.1 Volunteers for Visitor Centre:  Effie said that she had had a meeting with some of the volunteers but desperately needs more on board.   Pamela from VisitScotland will be in touch to arrange a training day.  Norman thought that it would be a good idea to arrange a site visit to the doocot as many people had not seen inside it.

 

13. AOCB

13.1 John Lockhart Trophy: Emily said that the family would like to run it again this year.  An advert will be put in the paper.

 

14. Date of next Meeting:  Tuesday 10th  April 2007 in Council Chambers, Town House at 7.00pm.

 

15.  Date of next Festival Meeting: Tuesday 27th  March 2007 in Town House at 7.00pm

 

16. Outstanding Matters Arising from previous minutes  

 

14/03     Litter Bins – this still outstanding so Jan will send an email (13/2)

Athelstaneford (Lighting at hall)

                Burleigh’s Wa’s

                Newton Port surgery car park       

12/04     Old Bowling Green – name plaque

09/06     Town House Clock tower lighting – Jan has contacted Halliday’s on numerous occasions and the lighting has still to be sorted.   13/2 Jan has had no reply to her email and Irene had no reply to a letter she sent to them last Autumn.  It was decided that Irene should write again.                                                     Action IP

Potholes at Florabank – Ann believed this to be sorted but Norman pointed out that further potholes are present just round in Templedean                                                                          Action AMcC

Glebe Terrace – staggered barrier:  Ann will chase (13/2)

Fencing at Oak Tree Café

13/06                Hopetoun Drive – speed bumps: a request has been made to have a speed check carried out here

12/09     Broken kerb at Coop

10/10     Potholes outside hall – Athelstaneford

                Uneven slabs at Graeme McGraths

                Beechwood Road – hole in wall

14/11     Mill Wynd/Millfield - fencing

                Mill Wynd/West Mills – pathway

                Dunbar Road – pavement a mess

12/12     Lights out:  skateboard ramps

 

2007

09/01     Bank of Scotland – water leak

                Long Stay parking-disabled parking bays

                Doocot-ready for use for tourism office

13/02                Footbridge at Riverside Drive

                Lighting – Sidegate and Mackays

                St Ann’s Place – large puddle

                Town Taxis -parking

                Herdmanflat – broken slabs/tree roots

13/03       Nungate Bridge – light filters

                Abbey Bridge – broken mirror

                Ball  Alley – lights

                Young Scot Card